The basic purpose of the launch of Apache RTR 180cc in 2009 was to start a revolution in the world of racing, and also of course as a competitor to the Bajaj Pulsar 180 DTSi (its known to a baby TVS and Bajaj fight a lot in the market).
The fresh looks and ergonomics of the Menace 180cc got good reviews from experts and critics. There were initial speculations that Apache RTR 180 would give a tough competition to the already existing Yamaha R15. But, fortunately, the Indian bike market has many buyers and each consumer has different requirements, and accordingly the sales of a new entrant will either go up or down, it is but remains neutral or at equilibrium.
A neutral comparative analysis will always help the buyer to pick the right bike, because he not only gets a clear picture of various technicalities such as engine performance, mileage and of course the price differences that will make a huge difference while deciding on which bike to go for.
Most of the times the chances are that the consumer will go by the brand name and ignore the actual facts of the bike or based on some biased opinions he/she would to prefer to buy a particular bike.
Buying a bike is an investment in itself; it is not only about the monetary investment but it is also about time and effort. Here is a brief comparison between Apache RTR 180 and Yamaha R15 that will make your job simpler and easier.
Looks wise
When it comes to looks, the style and designing of both Apache RTR 180 and Yamaha R15 will steal onlooker's hearts. Yes, when the TVS Apache RTR 180 arrived in the markets it truly lived by its name 'Menace'. Although it followed the lines of its predecessors the hi-tech features and super-cool body graphics gives the bike a far superior look.
Yamaha R15 on the other hand has a sporty-model look that is actually a reminiscent of YZF-R series, and the bike was rolled out in all-new colors that set the bike from the usual run of the mill types.
Furthermore, the Yamaha R15 scores better in the graphics department as well. The Yamaha R15 also follows the series' philosophy of highlighting visual performance and the bike truly echoes this visual representation. If one has a keen eye for detail, one can see that if glanced from side the panels and the top surface of the tank will give the looker an idea that the gravity is kind of shifting to the front tyre. TVS Apache RTR although has good looks, poor baby she lags a lot behind in comparison to the Yamaha R15.
Engine department
A 4 stroke, air-cooled 177.4cc engine will run the TVS Apache RTR 180, and the engine generates a power output of 17.3bhp @ 8500rpm and torque of 15.5Nm @ 6500rpm.
Quite the contrary, a 4 stroke, liquid-cooled 149.8cc engine runs the Yamaha R15 which generates power of 17bhp at 6500rpm and torque of 15Nm at 7500rpm. Actually, there is not much of a difference in their power output except that Yamaha produces extra torque. However one major difference is that with Yamaha there is the DiASil cylinder and the forged piston (that we find in all Yamaha super sport bikes). The aluminium cylinder and the piston enable heat dissipation and reduce the power loss of the engine due to excess heat- not only that, it also makes the bike highly fuel efficient as well. This unique feature in Yamaha R15 sets it apart from the TVS Apache RTR 180, even though the two bikes do not come in same engine capacity category.
Handling and Performance
The TVS Apache 180 RTR boasts of reaching a speed of 60 kmph from standstill in just about 4.15 seconds. It hits a top speed of 125 kmph. There is no doubt that the engine capacity of the RTR 180 is greater and it generates power of 17.3 bhp, and it is a major plus for the bike. Despite being low powered bike the Yamaha R15 still has an upper hand because the top speed recorded by the bike is 135kmph, a 149.8cc engine hitting that speed is commendable.
As coming to the handling of the bike, the Yamaha R15 is adorned with a Deltabox frame and come with monocross suspension which enables the rider great comfort while riding, as well as smooth handling and being easy while turning the vehicle. Whereas, the TVS Apache RTR 180 Menace has a longer wheelbase and the bike will be quite stable on straight roads as well as curvy ones. The aerodynamic design, the forward riding position and the pillion comfortable seating position makes a lot of difference to the riding quality of the bike. In the comfort and handling department the two bikes have their own unique features to give the rider a smooth ride.
Mileage
The Yamaha R15 is a performance bike with a 150cc engine, the mileage obviously will be less so one expect around 35kmpl-45kmpl. The TVS Apache RTR 180 gives a mileage of around 39-44kmpl in the city and highway you could expect 43-48kmpl. In this regard the two bikes are almost close and there is obviously nothing much to smile about.
Color and price
The Yamaha R15 is available in quite exciting and funky colors such as the Impact Yellow, Midnight Black, Sunset Red and Racing Blue that will come priced at Rs 1,09,500. While the TVS Apache RTR 180 Menace comes in Yellow, Black, Grey and Pearl White colors for about 30k bucks less i.e., around Rs. 74,000. Yamaha seems to rank higher and outscore the TVS Apache RTR180cc in almost all departments, but it comes for a price- the R15 costing about 30,000 higher than its competitor. Well worth the price, the R15 riders will yell.
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1)Looks: r15
2)Handling: apache
3)Topspeed: r15....douh apache is olso good enuf..bt at high speed(110km/hr) u wont feel confidnt
4)mileage: apache
5) engine and performance:: both are equaly good..good pickup
I ws olso cnfusd bt personaly realy liked apaches rtr technology. And awsm reving sound ..so i bought matte black 180...rode it at 123km/he 2day:)
Cuz r15 is really a different taste...its a full fairing sports bike
-With forged piston
-Liquid cooled engine
-4 valves per cylinder
-With higher 10500 rpm (company claims 8500)
-Aerodynamic in nature
-Sporty Handling
-Fuel injection
-sporty swingarm
-spcly designed mrf tires
far more sorted racing technology which the rtr misses..So thr is not any comparison between those bikes
Rtr is really cheap with unbearable vibrations
Excelled rpm reduces in each gear
No Fi..cheap piston,normal swingarm,thin tires
The competetion ends here only but with only a fact that it has a good sound ;)
Thanks for ur convenience apache buyers
Love u r15
r15 eats shit....lol
and lets come to the street races.........
DO U THINK U CAN RACE WITH VALENTINO ROSSI IN SBK RACES WITH THAT BICYCLE TYRED R15????
where do u use ur R15 on streets or on international race circuits??????
if apache rtr 180 is a bicycle with motor which cannot cross 125 kmph, you have to agree that the great R15 is also a biycle which roars a great 10 to 15 kmph more than the rtr.
and such a small change in top speed doesn't matter much when rtr's acceleration is dominating it......dream dream!!
they just don't WASTE money for a silly bike like R15......
R15 just looks like a small baby always with a faded colour and bicycle tyres.
even in the looks the apache RTR 180 ABS is far far far far more attractive than the short R15 and also apache has a superb beating!!!!
i have reached 0-60 kmph in just 3.8 seconds with the 180 and the main drawback of R15 is that IT LACKS ACCELERARION.
Apni te do e savari ek R15 ar duji Safari
i think
ki abs rules
5 baar marte hue bacha hun
thnx to abs tech
100 kmph ki speed me full brk
can u imagine this situation widout abs,
zara brk markar dekhna r15 me,u'll get ur ans
ki which1 is better
i too have the abs
ausam handling,n ausam power
mai to bolta hun,220 se bhi compt kar sakta hai,
cos maine use bhi chase kia hai,
Mujhe 5 monts hue hai abs lie,
n
mujhe 121 kmph ki speed par bhi koi fark nai pda,jabki wo top speed par bhi nai thi
R15 got an adv of oil cooled
Fir bhi,i can chalange r15
:)
cos i've seen the rtr in blk color
And i find it ugly
the whole standard of the bike falls
:)
So
bro,i would suggest,pearl white is the best color suits the best,with orange outline in the new graphics of the abs version
n
it is just ausam,
outstanding
n
mindblowing
But the best thing about the bike is the balance but thats where i went wrong, false sense of over confidence comes but i made a mistake cause it was dusty approaching a divider (as no one uses that segment of the road cause a divider is apporaching) so even with all that grip.. dusty sections rob you of everything. :)
Performance- low end torque was very low so difficult in heavy traffic city conditions unless you keep to low gears maintaining high revs (reducing milage and increasing heat though) empty long city roads puts a smile on the riders face. Highway, err im scared now, one should never become over confident cause the other people involved or the environment change for the worse) very difficult to keep to low revs for the engine break in period, cause low revs has very low power. headlights are weaaaaaaaaak very weak.. the reason i was speeding in the first case because i wanted to reach the destination city before sundown because the lights were so bad and i knew. thinking of buying one after 2 years now again :)
ki r15 aur r180 me ladai ho rehi ho,
dost tum apni bike se love to krte ho na!
Bus kafi h
i love both
r15 & r180
feb. Tak dono kharid lunga.
Indian bikes are best.
And apache is one of them.
Degraded a super bike?.. Super comment so far.. Every manufacture has a series of bikes like Ninja 250, 636, 1000, CBR 250, 600, 1000, 1100-RR, R1, R6, R125, R15. Wow all of them are trying to attract foolish mass.. You are probably the next Einstein...
Fake to you.. Yes yes, TVS has been making Sport bikes along with TVS 50 mopeds and they have been using ABS technology that were purely their technology.. Apache have super aero dynamics.. no fakes..
Donkey in the fur of Lion?.. Not just fur, a little bit power too..
Petty 150cc?.. Produces the same power of 177.4CC Menace.. Oh god I fear about that Menace LOLs.
Go go, shout well.. I don't know any place where RTR Menace's power can be used for Racing, except street races..
You all guys RTR'ns are riding a bicycle with a motor that eve can't go above 125kmph and you are all shouting that R15 is bicycle just because of that back tyre (sure it will not be less that Apache's rear tyre baseline)..
More value for money in RTR? You get what you gave. The extra money worth the Deltabox frame, mono suspension, liquid cooled engine, Diasil cylinder, forged piston, fairings, sporty look, four valve cylinder etc.
Mr. Apachians never dream that u can do something to beat r15 in real even with ir 180cc engine, because u can't and ur true heart knows that too. U may try to beat it with a 200 cc engine like pulsar did.
is the beeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeesssssssssssssssssssssttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttt
R15 is a smaller version of Yamaha R1 for the Indian roads. Style of r15 is not comparable with any other bikes in our roads. Aerodynamic sporty design with two headlights makes r15 very different from any other bikes. I think that the most stylish bike in our Indian road is Yamaha r15. Kawasaki Ninja was only the competitor for style with R15. Honda CBR has much power than R15, but R15 is good looking. Yamaha has its own brand value, that's why cost of Yamaha bikes will be much more while comparing with other brand bikes. In any circumstances R15 can get much performance.
and i also do not find any need of comparing a 150cc bike with a 180cc in context with the indian market where there is already a very stiff competition in each segment. 180 Rtr can b compared with pulsr 180 and R15 with an Fz , CBZ extreme and Honda unicorn series...no matter r15 has an oil cooled engine yet ...